Goose centre managers meeting 2006

4th meeting 16th September 2006 (12.30 – 18.00)

A couple of photo's have been taken at the meeting.

Participants:

Kopparbo:
Lars-Eric Gustafsson (kopparbo1 'at' telia com)
Lennart Johansson (kopparbo 'at' telia com)
Naesbycentret:
Thomas Kirkeskov (thomas 'at' netfolket dk)
Vässerö:
Eric Knochenhauer (eric 'at' scoutkansliet se)
Zellhof:
Markus Kroberger (markus.kronberger 'at' bo-co com)
Mäx Riegler (maex 'at' scout at)
Houens Odde:
Svend-Erik Fangel Pedersen (sfp 'at' spejdernet dk)
John Boll (jobo 'at' kfumscout dk)

In response to Erics question about the start of the network, John presented the thoughts behind the Goose network.

How did the centres run last year?

Kopparbo:

This year was a slow with only small camps. A lot of school-classes have been visiting the centre. Next year is going to be much bigger.

Naesbycentret:

Naesby had a fine year. Thought it would be a quiet year this year, but it has been OK. Naesby has tried to do more project-activities combining the existing box-activities to new project. It seems to be a success. Newt year is going to be a very big year with 3 very big camps.

Vasserö:

Busy summer. One week with 1500 participants. Later district camp also with 1500 scouts. Vasserö also had the first WAGS-arrangement – EuroLife. It was a very nice week with 90 girls. Last week in the summer there was a week with Muslim scouts with 160 scouts from all over the Europe and the Arabian world. There was a lot a press on this event. Also the best international year with 15 international groups. It was a very interesting and successful camp. It will probably be a more slow session next year due to the national jamboree.

Houens Odde:

Had a record of participants and of record of international participants. Beside of that I has been a quite normal year. Right now the time is going with preparing for the next year. Next year Houens Odde will make a copy of Brown see Island camp (in July). There has been a lot of both short term and long term international volunteers. It seems this is going on. It gives a lot to the site and to the Danish centre people.

Zellhof:

It has been a busy year. 26.000 overnights. More than 90% scouts and around 50% international guests. In the team (centre team) there have been a lot of international members. The focus is mostly in the summer because the centre-volunteers area living a long way from the centre. Nobody is going to travel 300 km. for one weekend. Also Zellhof is renovating a building for 20 new beds. Right now it’s a ruin, but it will be nice in a while.

ICD 2006:

16 teams participated from 8 centres. It was not all centres that succeeded in completing the whole game. That was due to e.g. technical problems and lack of interest. Bucher Berg won the game. All together it was a very nice day.

Houens Odde:

Maybe it would be an idea to give the participants should be given a participant-letter. That means that the program and the letter have to be ready November 1 the year before.

Vasserö:

The participants are not interested.

Zellhof:

The participants are not really interested.

Kopparbo:

Have no connection to the Internet – it’s not possible to participate.

An idea could be that the groups had the possibility to enrol for the activity at the homepage directly. This means that we need to know which centres are going to participate. Naesbycentret will send out an email for the Goose-centres to enrol so the groups can find the participating centres to enrol.

Next year: 18th of July 2007.

Camp staff seminar in Vässerö 2006:

Socially it was a very nice event. But there were some problems about the aim and the idea behind the seminar. Eric didn’t find it very easy to deepen out the aim and the idea. The workshops could have been planned better.

Eric quoted some points from the evaluation.

It was a mistake that none of the more experienced from the Goose network participated. That gives no opportunity to give on the idea and the aim, and the Goose network has to live among the camp staff and not only among the centre managers.

Also see the evaluations sent out by Eric and Ingeborg.

Staff exchange:

Houens Odde: 2 participants

Buitenzorg: 2 participants

Kandersteg: 1 participant

Naesbycentret: 1 participant

The overall impression was that it was a success. Some of the participants had some very good experiences, while some had less good experiences.

The criterion for success is difficult to make clear, but with 6 participants it’s a good start.

We will surely try to do it again next year:

Vässerö: Will try to find one next year. It’s difficult because people are so happy to come to Vässerö that they would probably don’t want to go away from the centre.

Zellhof: Will find one next year.

Kopparbo: It’s difficult to find one because of the travel-costs, but they will try to find one.

1. February is deadline for enrolment to Staff exchange to mama/papa-goose.

The backpack / database

The backpack died last year. The new idea about the database never came up running because of missing time from the network-participants.

Eric: It’s not worth the time, because to few centres would use the database.

John: The question is what the success-criteria are

Thomas: It’s important to Naesby because it broadens the participant’s horizon out in Europe.

The problem is not the computer to get the activities. We could just print and file the activities together with the centres other activities.

The future Goose-network:

Agenda:

1) ICD2007

2) Camp staff seminar – clear goal

3) Exchange – the personal network

4) Goose centre managers meeting

5) Database

6) Scouting Sunrise 2007

We had a discussion about the meaning with a parallel network-structure beside of the European Scout Centre Managers Conference. We agreed that it’s important to have a forum where we can exchange ideas, and we can address topics that are developing the scout-work in European instead of just talking about physical bricks. The Goose-network is not a parallel, but a self-sufficient network for everyone who is interested.

1) ICD2007

Next International Centre Day is 18th of July 2007. Naesbycentret will make a letter for the participants in November, and make enrolment possible at the homepage www.naesbycentret.dk/icd. Naesbycentret will take care of the day – all ideas are very welcome.

2) Camp staff seminar – clear goal

Goal/aim: That the participants exchange ideas, that the participants are making preparations/practical work for the ICD/the exchange/the database, that the participants learn and that the participants are networking.

We are asking around in the network for hosting the seminar in Easter 2007. Houens Odde and Naesbycentret would like to help with the planning and the carrying out the program at the seminar. If nobody wants to host the seminar, Naesbycentret are willing to do so.

3) Exchange – the personal network

We want to continue the exchange. Last time Ingeborg did the whole work of collecting names and making the match. It is possible to make agreements about exchange directly between the centres, but the coordinator has to know about the agreement done. Also it is possible to make arrangements through the coordinator.

Coordinator is Svend-Erik

4) Goose centre managers meeting

Next year it is 17th of October in Slovakia in connection to the European Centre Managers Conference.

5) Activity-Database

Thomas is asking Olaf about preparing the database on the Internet.

Mama/Papa-Goose must push for ideas.

6) Scouting Sunrise 2007

We would like to exchange pictures by webcam at the exact day around the time for the ceremony (08.00 in the morning).

We like to put out the planning for this event to the camp staff-seminar.

A new mama/papa-Goose:

The centres at place have no candidates for the position. Houens Odde promised to take it back home and to make some phone calls around Europe. If nobody is saying yes to the position, Houens Odde will take on the position.

Other things:

Zellhof is trying to initiate a representation from the European Centres at the Jamboree. We will use the posters made for the Eurojam by Burg Rieneck.

There is nothing new about the Jamboree and the pre-/post-camps.

We will all make a link-list with the Goose-centres, and put on the logo on our home-pages.






Thomas, Naesbycentret, 19th of September 2006.

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